Table of Contents
Very really confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I really did not explain ... my poor In reply to spitfirebill: I added that point because when I needed to discover a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via each in every junkyard in South Jersey to find one that wasn't sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're mosting likely to speak about a few problems of these vans, but I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is far better than the other. So if that's what you're searching for, you'll need to wait. Mark: So what are some of the differences in between these 2 brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the exact same vehicle.
They seem to be a little bit more utilized in that area, yet, you know, those are several of the usages, however they're essentially the same group of vehicle. Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines after that. What concerns do you see in between these two automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. So allow's speak about engine and really just to define that the design years, we're mosting likely to start from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have actually been around for a very long time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has been around since, you understand, around that time as well. We're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier things. Because 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more preferred and I would not really advise a V6 engine.
So, you recognize, Fords, and the majority of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with blow to these engines, because they really did not have enough threading in the spark plug, which triggered issues. And frequently that would certainly take place when you may be in a 15 guest bus rising a hill with a lots of people and all of a sudden boom, a spark plug pops out and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from most likely 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that type of stimulate plug issues. Other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you have to replace the whole thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm talking concerning troubles, it's an extra innovative engine. Expenses web cam, so you're getting even more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler design with press rods.
They're just really respectable, resilient, strong engines. You recognize, being a van, of program, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is a lot more complex because you have actually reached eliminate that cover and enter servicing in weird ways. Points like stimulate plugs last an awful lengthy time, so they do not require to be replaced very frequently.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not assume of if we have actually ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long period of time, like back prior to the 2000 design year.
You understand, that's still offered. If you're a say, I don't understand, I'm simply going to state a plumber and you have actually obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually excellent usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it looks like the diesels are, they seem to have less troubles in vans than they do in the trucks. Probably since they aren't functioned so hard, yet when points take place, they're really pricey to fix. We have actually obtained a great deal of video clips and information concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
So you truly require to hesitate about getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so healthy for objective, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the purpose that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will certainly state, Chevy is basically limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply speaking regarding kind of a right, normal freight van here. The diesel absolutely isn't the most effective choice. Look at your function, your usage, just how much weight you're transporting which'll help you make the decision. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equivalent.
One thing that we haven't spoken about below is what kind of van. These vans are, and it relies on what model, they're available ever from half load to one ton framework and in fact a few of the cutaway vans are in fact a lot more resilient, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less steering linkage involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the steering link is much less challenging, so there's much less parts and less items to use out.
The ride in a Ford is probably a little a lot more vehicle like however I do not recognize if you 'd in fact ever before truly observed a difference in between the 2. It seems like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are virtually the very same, but I will state that it looks like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be replaced nearly every single time you do a brake work.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake work. And after that a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit even more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you recognize, really badly built. In fact, I would state that if you are even taking a look at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their trucks as a whole actually took a leap ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes as an example would certainly not last really long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I mean, I would certainly say they're both most likely quite much equivalent in quality, fit and finish, you understand, some of the passenger vans, of course we'll have nicer appointments than the freight vans. But I can not state that a person of them sticks out to me a little bit more than the various other.
Navigation
Latest Posts
Is the Ford e150 the ultimate truck? (Our Review in Irving)
Is the Ford F150 the ultimate truck?